<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-701111502598835670</id><updated>2011-07-30T15:02:16.231-07:00</updated><title type='text'>LABI Sanger: Church History</title><subtitle type='html'>The course website for the May 21-22, 2010 term "Church History" course for the &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/Sanger-CA/Latin-American-Bible-Institute-FresnoSanger-Extension/188231397219?ref=ts"&gt;Fresno-Sanger Extension&lt;/a&gt; of &lt;a href="http://labi.edu/site2/index.php"&gt;Latin American Bible Institute&lt;/a&gt;..Info: leave a comment here or info@topchristiancenter.com</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://labichurchhistory.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/701111502598835670/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://labichurchhistory.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>dave</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>7</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-701111502598835670.post-2707490488244222554</id><published>2010-06-19T07:10:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-06-19T07:13:10.987-07:00</updated><title type='text'>the Holy Kiss for today..on a bridge and in a bucket</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dJ81AALsvDg/TA2KS48YRpI/AAAAAAAAD4s/lZaHLhqq30w/s1600/HolyKissL.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="float: left; margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 309px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dJ81AALsvDg/TA2KS48YRpI/AAAAAAAAD4s/lZaHLhqq30w/s400/HolyKissL.gif" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5480188378707674770" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; "There is the kiss and the counterkiss, and if one  wins, we both lose."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; -&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Walter Brueggemann -&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;---------------&lt;br /&gt;We covered the biblical tradition of the &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;"holy kiss"&lt;/span&gt; in our class last night;&lt;br /&gt;It was a lot of fun.  We started with a game of Hangman;&lt;br /&gt;We had "Holy _ _ _ _" on the whiteboard when folks came in!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.metacafe.com/fplayer/3725251/how_to_play_hangman.swf" wmode="transparent" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" name="Metacafe_3725251" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="400" height="345"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They has to guess what four letter word filled in the blank to make this a phrase that appears in Scripture.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That the Bible explicitly mentions  this practice five times:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epistle_to_the_Romans" title="Epistle to the Romans"&gt;Romans&lt;/a&gt; 16.16a — "Greet one another  with a holy kiss" (&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_language" title="Greek language"&gt;Greek&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;span lang="grc"&gt;ἀσπάσασθε  ἀλλήλους ἐν φιλήματι ἁγίῳ&lt;/span&gt;).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Epistle_to_the_Corinthians" title="First Epistle to the Corinthians"&gt;I Corinthians&lt;/a&gt; 16.20b —  "Greet one another with a holy kiss" (&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_language" title="Greek  language"&gt;Greek&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;span lang="grc"&gt;ἀσπάσασθε ἀλλήλους  ἐν φιλήματι ἁγίῳ&lt;/span&gt;).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Epistle_to_the_Corinthians" title="Second Epistle to the Corinthians"&gt;II Corinthians&lt;/a&gt; 13.12a —  "Greet one another with a holy kiss" (&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_language" title="Greek  language"&gt;Greek&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;span lang="grc"&gt;ἀσπάσασθε ἀλλήλους  ἐν ἁγίῳ φιλήματι&lt;/span&gt;).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Epistle_to_the_Thessalonians" title="First Epistle to the Thessalonians"&gt;I Thessalonians&lt;/a&gt; 5.26 —  "Greet all the brothers with a holy kiss" (&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_language" title="Greek  language"&gt;Greek&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;span lang="grc"&gt;ἀσπάσασθε τοὺς  ἀδελφοὺς πάντας ἐν φιλήματι ἁγίῳ&lt;/span&gt;).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Epistle_of_Peter" title="First Epistle of Peter"&gt;I Peter&lt;/a&gt; 5.14a — "Greet one another  with a kiss of love" (&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_language" title="Greek  language"&gt;Greek&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;span lang="grc"&gt;ἀσπάσασθε ἀλλήλους  ἐν φιλήματι ἀγάπης&lt;/span&gt;).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt; ...makes it a classic case study in how to apply&lt;br /&gt;any  scriptures that we assume need a cultural equivalent to out taking them  literally.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On this issue of interpretation:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Brian Dodd's discussion of the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:180%;" &gt;"interpretive bridge"&lt;/span&gt; is helpful (p. 19 &lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=5zSdcsS-l24C&amp;amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;amp;dq=brian+dodd+bridge&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;ei=hIoNTILvBYioNpLx5LUE&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;oi=book_result&amp;amp;ct=book-preview-link&amp;amp;resnum=1&amp;amp;ved=0CCsQuwUwAA#v=onepage&amp;amp;q=%20bridge&amp;amp;f=false"&gt;here)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt; as is&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Ron Martoia's posts on the &lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:180%;" &gt;"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:180%;" &gt;two buckets"&lt;/span&gt; (see &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:130%;" &gt;"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;The Two Bucket Theory Examined" &lt;a href="http://www.velocityculture.com/uncategorized/the-two-bucket-theory-examined/#more-1075"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I really recommend you read both above links, then get back to us.&lt;br /&gt;They helped us when we tackled &lt;a href="http://thirddayfresno.blogspot.com/2010/04/women-shepherds-porn-starsand-jumping.html"&gt;women in leadership&lt;/a&gt;, and homosexuality.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We learned that, counterintuitively to our guesses from this end of the cultural bridge, it seems the early church's holy kissing was almost always... on the lips!&lt;br /&gt;The reason is powerful: that form on kiss implied equality...a kiss on the cheeks implied one person was inferior.  Nothing like a Kingdom Kiss as an acted parable and reminder that in Christ we are equal!  Of course, today, when we look at cultural equivalents like the "holy hug", "holy handshake," we might not realize that that, too, began as a Kingdom equalizer:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In fact, handshaking, which can seem quite prosaic today, was  popularised by &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quakers" title="Quakers" class="mw-redirect"&gt;Quakers&lt;/a&gt; as a sign of &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egalitarianism" title="Egalitarianism"&gt;equality&lt;/a&gt; under &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God" title="God"&gt;God&lt;/a&gt;, rather than  stratified system of &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etiquette" title="Etiquette"&gt;etiquette&lt;/a&gt; of seventeenth century &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England" title="England"&gt;England&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_kiss"&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Ironically, the kiss of inclusion became a kiss of exclusion (from centered to bounded set):&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:85%;"  &gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:85%;"  &gt;Just as kissing                 had many different meanings in the wider ancient world,  so too                                     early Christians                                     interpreted                                     the                                     kiss in various                                     ways. Because ancient kissing was  often seen                                     as a familiar gesture, many early  Christians                                     kissed                                     each                                     other to                                     help construct themselves                                     as a new sort of family, a family of  Christ.                                     Similarly, in the Greco-Roman world,  kissing                                     often was seen                                     as involving a transfer                                     of spirit; when you kissed someone  else you                                     literally                                     gave them part of your soul. The  early church                                     expanded on this                                     and claimed                                     that, when Christians kissed, they  exchanged                                     the Holy Spirit with one another.  Christians                                     also emphasized                                     the kiss as                                     an indication of mutual forgiveness  (it’s                                     from here that we get the term “kiss                                     of peace”). These different meanings                                     influenced and were influenced by  the sorts                                     of rituals kissing became associated  with.                                     For example, because the kiss helped  exchange                                     spirit, it made perfect sense for it  to become                                     part of baptism and ordination,  rituals                                     in which you wanted the Holy Spirit  to descend                                     and enter the initiate. The flip  side of                                     the coin is that before someone was  baptized                                     you                                     wouldn’t want to kiss them. Early  Christians                                     often believed that previous to  exorcism                                     and baptism people were inevitably  demon                                     possessed. Given that they also  thought that                                     kissing resulted in spiritual  exchange, it’s                                     pretty clear why you wouldn’t                                     want to kiss non-Christians. I  sometimes                                     think of this as an ancient form of  “cooties.” It                                     resulted in early Christian debates  over                                     whether one could                                     kiss a pagan relative, if one should  kiss                                     a potential heretic, or if Jews even  had                                     a kiss.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.mtholyoke.edu/offices/comm/news/kissing.shtml"&gt;-Penn, link&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We incorporated insights from these and other articles linked below, and quoted the only book on the topic, &lt;a href="http://www.mtholyoke.edu/offices/comm/news/kissing.shtml"&gt;"Kissing Christians" by Michael Penn.  &lt;/a&gt;You'll note some of the articles below include interview with him.  We particularly enjoyed some of the early fathers and teachers' comments and guidelines on the practice.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2005/10/08/ritual_kissing_key_for_early_christians/"&gt;One early guideline&lt;/a&gt;, for real (wonder if this was in the weekly "bulletin"):&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;1)No French Kissing!&lt;br /&gt;2)If you come back for seconds, because you liked  the first kiss too much, you may be going to hell!!&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.christiancentury.org/article.lasso?id=1686"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Clement of Alexandra (c.150 - c. 215&lt;/a&gt;):&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="article_body"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="article_body"&gt;"There are those who do nothing but make the  church resound with the kiss."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&amp;amp;q=cache:M52LyVuMzbMJ:www.fbchsark.org/clientimages/30883/sermonarchives/oneanother-greetwithakiss.pdf+chrysostom+holy+kiss&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;gl=us&amp;amp;pid=bl&amp;amp;srcid=ADGEESjk0Z7mfzL1m17vk3M7y8zDahuLxK09Ocr8MxOKHyTeCAOIDhEMLx87IuOhRlfVVUGarw2-gMJ1wEH5RsJwQ3HhX4jfT1T3ZJYqHzZaAcT1hsqGxKIrFPjI_5IbwLN9E1rPe5CD&amp;amp;sig=AHIEtbSEeHCdrEO-fpJCkcLT1LJJdFwcmw"&gt;Chrysostom (4th C)&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“We are the temple of Christ, and when we kiss each other&lt;br /&gt;we are kissing the porch and entrance of the temple.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=1SMlrfzsK1oC&amp;amp;pg=PA323&amp;amp;lpg=PA323&amp;amp;dq=augustine+lips+brother+heart&amp;amp;source=bl&amp;amp;ots=QFjUpiVgoo&amp;amp;sig=qXBHaQ-F6NGqfNjB5DNUvNqRuJ0&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;ei=1ZANTJe3H5SmNubMwbUE&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;oi=book_result&amp;amp;ct=result&amp;amp;resnum=2&amp;amp;ved=0CBcQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&amp;amp;q=augustine%20lips%20brother%20heart&amp;amp;f=false"&gt;Augustine (4th C):&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; "when your &lt;/span&gt;&lt;em style="font-style: italic;"&gt;lips&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; draw close to the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;em style="font-style: italic;"&gt;lips&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; of your &lt;/span&gt;&lt;em style="font-style: italic;"&gt;brother&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;,  let your &lt;/span&gt;&lt;em style="font-style: italic;"&gt;heart&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; not draw away."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One interview with Michael Penn:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="byline"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);" class="byline"&gt;&lt;span&gt;By Rich Barlow &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="date"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;Whoever said ''a kiss is just a kiss" didn't know  their theological history. During Christianity's first five centuries,  ritual kissing -- on the lips -- was a vital part of worship, says  Michael P. Penn, who teaches religion at Mount Holyoke College in South  Hadley. In that context, kissing helped Christians define themselves as a  family of faith, he writes in his new book, ''Kissing Christians:  Ritual and Community in the Late Ancient Church" (University of  Pennsylvania Press). Excerpts from a recent interview follow.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Q:  &lt;/strong&gt;Let me start with the basic question: Who kissed whom?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;A:  &lt;/strong&gt;In the first two centuries [AD], men may kiss&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dJ81AALsvDg/TA2Ty2YBEbI/AAAAAAAAD40/0DcnvzSBbu4/s1600/kissing_book.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="float: right; margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; cursor: pointer; width: 200px; height: 310px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dJ81AALsvDg/TA2Ty2YBEbI/AAAAAAAAD40/0DcnvzSBbu4/s400/kissing_book.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5480198823378751922" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; men, women  women, but also you would have men and women kissing one another. In  future centuries, there continued to be a debate over who should kiss  whom. In later years, Christians will no longer have men and women  kissing each other, but only men men, women women. [Christians had]  debates on whether or not priests could kiss the laity, on whether you  should kiss a non-Christian relative in the normal, everyday situation,  even debates over whether Jews have a kiss or not.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Q: &lt;/strong&gt;When  in the service was the kiss performed?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;A: &lt;/strong&gt;Our  earliest references would be a kiss that would follow a communal prayer.  Later on, it gets increasingly associated with the Eucharist and also  occurs in part of the rites of baptism and in ordination rites. You have  Christians kissing each other as an everyday greeting or also martyrs,  before they're killed, kissing one another.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Q: &lt;/strong&gt;What  was the theological significance?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;A: &lt;/strong&gt;In  antiquity, a kiss on the lips was seen as transferring a little bit of  one's spirit to the other person. You have a lot of early -- I kind of  think of them almost as Greco-Roman Harlequin -- novels that speak of  the kiss as this transfer of spirit. Christians modify it a bit, to  suggest that when Christians kiss each other, they don't just exchange  their own spirit, but also share a part of the Holy Spirit with one  another. So the kiss is seen as a way to bind the community together.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;There's  another side, though. There was a concern that kissing an individual  who has promised to join the Christian community but isn't yet baptized  should be avoided, because the spirit that would be transferred wouldn't  be a holy spirit but a demonic spirit. So you have the kiss working as  this ritual of exclusion.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Q: &lt;/strong&gt;Did Christian  leaders worry about the erotic overtones?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;A: &lt;/strong&gt;We  have only two explicit references to this concern. One says,  essentially, to kiss with a closed and chaste mouth, which suggests that  a few of these kisses may have been too erotic. The other one warns  against those who kiss a second time because they liked the first one so  much.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;Judas kissing Jesus [to betray him] terrifies them a lot  more than eroticism. There's this evil intention behind it. Early  Christian writers use the kiss of Judas to warn that it's not just how  you practice the kiss, but what you're thinking. If you kiss another  Christian while keeping evil in your heart against them, you are  repeating Judas' betrayal.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Q: &lt;/strong&gt;When did kissing  fall out of favor?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;A: &lt;/strong&gt;In the third century, men  and women are no longer to kiss one another. Early Christians met in  what we think of as a house church -- you meet in someone's living room,  essentially. Starting in the third century, when Christians [worship]  in a public forum, this familial kiss is less appropriate. It's also a  time where Christianity becomes concerned with making sure women and men  are categorically separated. In the fourth century, that clergy and  laity become increasingly distant. You start having prohibitions against  clergy and laity kissing one another.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;The ritual kiss never  entirely died out. We still have it as an exchange of peace [in  Christian services]. We see it in the kissing of the pope's ring. In  Catholicism, a priest may kiss a ritual object.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Q: &lt;/strong&gt;What  would Christianity have been without the kiss?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;A: &lt;/strong&gt;What  I find exciting is to see how what we think of as trivial is so central  to early Christian self-understanding. Our earliest Christian writing,  Paul's letter to the First Thessalonians, talks about the ritual kiss,  albeit briefly. We have hundreds of early Christian references to this  ritual. For these authors, it was anything but trivial.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);" href="http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2005/10/08/ritual_kissing_key_for_early_christians/"&gt;-LINK&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;----------------------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;ARTICLES:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2005/10/08/ritual_kissing_key_for_early_christians/"&gt;-Ritual kissing key for early Christians&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;li  style="font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_kiss"&gt;Wikipedia article on Holy Kiss&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li  style="font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/38665"&gt;Kiss and Tell the Gospel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li  style="font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/38665"&gt;Michael Penn explains what the early church meant by  the "holy kiss."&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.mtholyoke.edu/offices/comm/news/kissing.shtml"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li  style="font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.mtholyoke.edu/offices/comm/news/kissing.shtml"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;strong&gt;On                   Kissing: A Q&amp;amp;A             with Michael Penn&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li  style="font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;-&lt;a href="http://www.christiancentury.org/article.lasso?id=1686"&gt;PUCKER UP by Martin Marty&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li  style="font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.fbchsark.org/clientimages/30883/sermonarchives/oneanother-greetwithakiss.pdf"&gt;GREET ONE ANOTHER WITH A HOLY KISS  (PDF)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2005/10/08/ritual_kissing_key_for_early_christians/"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li  style="font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.zianet.com/maxey/reflx426.htm"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Holy Kiss of Love:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt; Are We Keeping This Command?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://giveattentiontoreading.com/2009/10/02/i-corinthians-16-ii-corinthians-1-greet-one-another-with-a-holy-kiss/" rel="bookmark"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li  style="font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://giveattentiontoreading.com/2009/10/02/i-corinthians-16-ii-corinthians-1-greet-one-another-with-a-holy-kiss/" rel="bookmark"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;I Corinthians 16-II Corinthians 1: Greet One Another   with a Holy Kiss&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/701111502598835670-2707490488244222554?l=labichurchhistory.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://labichurchhistory.blogspot.com/feeds/2707490488244222554/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://labichurchhistory.blogspot.com/2010/06/holy-kiss-for-todayon-bridge-and-in.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/701111502598835670/posts/default/2707490488244222554'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/701111502598835670/posts/default/2707490488244222554'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://labichurchhistory.blogspot.com/2010/06/holy-kiss-for-todayon-bridge-and-in.html' title='the Holy Kiss for today..on a bridge and in a bucket'/><author><name>dave</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dJ81AALsvDg/TA2KS48YRpI/AAAAAAAAD4s/lZaHLhqq30w/s72-c/HolyKissL.gif' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-701111502598835670.post-6791121547859309625</id><published>2010-06-18T14:21:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-06-18T14:58:38.115-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Doorkeeper of the Lord's House</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dJ81AALsvDg/TBvp-mYVteI/AAAAAAAAD7s/BiABATHVOaU/s1600/mountttttt.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="float: right; margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 256px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dJ81AALsvDg/TBvp-mYVteI/AAAAAAAAD7s/BiABATHVOaU/s400/mountttttt.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5484234232917505506" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I love  Jesus, and I love Jerusalem.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Here's a photo of me doing both, in both).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Do you know how often in church history those two well-meaning loves ...when tethered too tenuously together... have caused craziness, chaos and violence?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm not talking interfaith clashes&lt;br /&gt;(see:&lt;a href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2007/05/holy-hamburgers.html"&gt;Holy   Hamburgers&lt;/a&gt;  and  &lt;a href="http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;amp;source=web&amp;amp;cd=2&amp;amp;ved=0CBYQFjAB&amp;amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fdavewainscott.blogspot.com%2F2007%2F11%2Fsexy-real-estate.html&amp;amp;ei=kusbTI_RJZKmnQfItdXvDQ&amp;amp;usg=AFQjCNG6L0fDYYJGx2o53Q_b1nLZY9iPXQ&amp;amp;sig2=MBZ9gF-1Q0I7TZqEurVs_g" class="l" onmousedown="return  rwt(this,'','','','2','AFQjCNG6L0fDYYJGx2o53Q_b1nLZY9iPXQ','MBZ9gF-1Q0I7TZqEurVs_g','0CBYQFjAB')"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;My  &lt;em&gt;Real Estate&lt;/em&gt; Isn't as Big/Sexy as Yours&lt;/a&gt;),&lt;br /&gt; I mean intra-faith, in-house.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Whatsup with that?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As you can see by the first 24 seconds  in this video clip, I may love  Jesus and Jerusalem,&lt;br /&gt;but I may sometimes love myself even more (:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Note that I rudely interrupt a panoramic view of the Holy City, just to get my face in the film(:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That's just a&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="480" height="385"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/v77OEhjkjr0&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/v77OEhjkjr0&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;parable of all of us.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You probably know the story:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The only person that could be trusted with the keys to a building&lt;br /&gt;(believed to be the spot where Jesus died and rose again)&lt;br /&gt;owned jointly by four Christian traditions is..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...(of course)............................a Muslim.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How else will the Christians be kept from killing each other?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here it is, on video, one  of one of the infamous rituals is Jerusalem.  Meet &lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Wajeeh, Muslim doorkeeper in the house of the Lord (Maybe he lives by Psalm 84:10&lt;/span&gt;):&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="425" height="355"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Gs9_p0f1YKU&amp;amp;hl=en"&gt;&lt;param name="wmode" value="transparent"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Gs9_p0f1YKU&amp;amp;hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;News:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Every morning at 4 a.m., Wajeeh Nuseibeh walks through the walled Old City of Jerusalem to the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, the most revered shrine in Christendom. He takes an ancient 12-inch iron key, climbs a small ladder and opens the huge wooden doors to the place that most Christians believe is the site of the crucifixion, tomb and resurrection of Jesus.&lt;br /&gt;Every evening at nightfall, after three raps of an iron doorknocker spaced out over half an hour, Nuseibeh closes up and places the key in safekeeping.( &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/03/27/MNGMTBVFQT1.DTL"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;link)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How about this from BBC, 1999:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;A Holy Sepulchre row&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An 800-year-old tradition of religious co-existence in Jerusalem's old city looks set to come to an end at the insistence of the Israeli authorities.&lt;br /&gt;The ministry of tourism is forcing through a plan to open a second entrance to the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, one of the holiest sites of Christianity, and relieve two Muslim families of custodianship of what is currently the only door.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Nusaibi and Joudah families have been the sole guardians of the key to the church since they were entrusted with it by the Muslim ruler Salah el-Din (Saladin) in 1178.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It seems that has been the only solution to squabbling between the numerous Christian denominations, which have jostled for space in the building since it was built 900 years ago.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Salah el-Din closed all but one of the 10 entrances to the building, causing what the Israeli authorities now describe as a serious risk to pilgrims in the modern era of mass tourism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But some observers say the Israelis are exaggerating the risks for territorial purposes, in a city whose sovereignty lies at the very heart of the Arab-Israeli conflict.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Millennial flood&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Jewish state, which claims sovereignty over Jerusalem's old city after occupying it in 1967, says the new arrangement is necessary in preparation for the 4 million Christian pilgrims it says it expects during next year's millennium celebrations.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Months of negotiations between the authorities and the churches have resulted in an agreement to open a new entrance and transfer custodianship of the key to the churches, the tourism ministry announced this week.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He said the decision on where to put the entrance will be taken by the end of June.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But the ministry could be being over-optimistic, given the long-standing territorial disputes within the building between the churches, which jealously guard every inch of space they occupy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Israelis say the second entrance could be via an Ethiopian monastery situated on the roof of the building.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ethiopian monks have occupied the roof since the 1600s, when they were forced out of the main body of the church for not paying their taxes to the Muslim governors of the city.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But the Ethiopian Patriachate has already expressed unwillingness to cede its quiet little spot without a fight.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Terminating the contact&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Meanwhile, the bemused Muslim key-holders have not even been officially informed of the termination of their ancient responsibilities.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Wajeeh Nusaibi continues - as he has done for 20 years - to open and close the building's only door morning and night, before returning the ancient 25 cm (10 inch) long key to his neighbours, the Joudah family, for safekeeping.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He appears unconcerned about the fuss: "I don't pay attention, it's all talk," he told reporters.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The families are not paid for their services. Salah el-Din gave them about 4,000 hectares (10,000 acres) of land near the West Bank city of Nablus, which provides some income, but much of it has been confiscated by Israel since 1967 to build settlements. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt; (&lt;a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/middle_east/375320.stm"&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;VIDEO below,Armenian and Greek Orthodox priests fight in the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, where both believe Jesus died and was raised again:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="480" height="385"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/VH3ySDGrhcA&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/VH3ySDGrhcA&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="480" height="385"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/XcMBjiILTRk&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/XcMBjiILTRk&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="480" height="385"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/xs4SqcITBIo&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/xs4SqcITBIo&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/701111502598835670-6791121547859309625?l=labichurchhistory.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://labichurchhistory.blogspot.com/feeds/6791121547859309625/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://labichurchhistory.blogspot.com/2010/06/doorkeeper-of-lords-house.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/701111502598835670/posts/default/6791121547859309625'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/701111502598835670/posts/default/6791121547859309625'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://labichurchhistory.blogspot.com/2010/06/doorkeeper-of-lords-house.html' title='Doorkeeper of the Lord&apos;s House'/><author><name>dave</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dJ81AALsvDg/TBvp-mYVteI/AAAAAAAAD7s/BiABATHVOaU/s72-c/mountttttt.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-701111502598835670.post-7084914535104562412</id><published>2010-06-17T18:48:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-06-18T16:14:52.167-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Mark DeRaud  video interview</title><content type='html'>In these short videos below, I interview Mark DeRaud, founder of &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=366159050759&amp;amp;ref=ts"&gt;  Art n Soul&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(here you see some of his art) for our class; he&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dJ81AALsvDg/TBrPjz6G4sI/AAAAAAAAD7E/18sDD65v1bg/s1600/artsoul.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="float: right; margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 300px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dJ81AALsvDg/TBrPjz6G4sI/AAAAAAAAD7E/18sDD65v1bg/s400/artsoul.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5483923710413300418" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dJ81AALsvDg/TBrPPbczLEI/AAAAAAAAD68/ptmYwxUiRwg/s1600/praying-hands.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="display: block; margin: 0px auto 10px; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 208px; height: 299px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dJ81AALsvDg/TBrPPbczLEI/AAAAAAAAD68/ptmYwxUiRwg/s400/praying-hands.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5483923360250539074" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dJ81AALsvDg/TBrONp8ci7I/AAAAAAAAD60/8nM-3UW3wbQ/s1600/wounded-cover.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="float: left; margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; cursor: pointer; width: 267px; height: 400px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dJ81AALsvDg/TBrONp8ci7I/AAAAAAAAD60/8nM-3UW3wbQ/s400/wounded-cover.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5483922230270004146" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;discusses the Reformation, art/images, and the convergence of Pentecostalism/Orthodoxy.&lt;br /&gt;Many of you will remember the&lt;a href="http://labipreaching.blogspot.com/2009/09/mark-art.html"&gt; amazing session he taught for our Preaching/Homiletics&lt;/a&gt; course.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Mark DeRaud is a full time artist and muralist living and  working in Fresno, California. He completed massive murals for Holy  Spirit Catholic Church in the same city (18’ X 37’and 7’-14’ X 100’). He  has a degree in Biblical Studies from Westmont College where he  emphasized early church doctrinal development.   He has studied art in Germany, and theology at Fuller Seminary..Mark has  served as a professor  of art at Fresno Pacific University. He and his wife Wendy&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dJ81AALsvDg/TBrSTbWnZ0I/AAAAAAAAD7U/TYIhO3kHqTo/s1600/marky.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="float: right; margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; cursor: pointer; width: 300px; height: 400px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dJ81AALsvDg/TBrSTbWnZ0I/AAAAAAAAD7U/TYIhO3kHqTo/s400/marky.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5483926727478961986" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; developed the  seminar Art n’ Soul to bring together Christian spirituality and  creativity.&lt;/blockquote&gt;  &lt;address&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/address&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="480" height="385"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/m6ZGyHZ7rTY&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/m6ZGyHZ7rTY&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="480" height="385"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/A2RdIBp2wVQ&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/A2RdIBp2wVQ&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="480" height="385"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/SWIYLNZXffc&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/SWIYLNZXffc&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here is the piece  (Bernini's&lt;br /&gt;"Ecstasy of St, therese"  &lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dJ81AALsvDg/TBrfbZ0w5lI/AAAAAAAAD7c/HouQhJasP04/s1600/Bernini%2BEcstasy%2Bof%2BSt%2BTheresa.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="float: left; margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; cursor: pointer; width: 277px; height: 400px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dJ81AALsvDg/TBrfbZ0w5lI/AAAAAAAAD7c/HouQhJasP04/s400/Bernini%2BEcstasy%2Bof%2BSt%2BTheresa.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5483941158158657106" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; he talks about in the 3rd video.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here is Mark talking through the vision behind one of his paintings:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="480" height="385"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/erjUiPtOLuA&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/erjUiPtOLuA&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="480" height="385"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/jpDMk3FvldA&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/jpDMk3FvldA&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Related, see Mark's blogs on:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;h3&gt;&lt;a href="http://buildmychurchnow.com/blog/?p=662" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link to Sacred Space: Part One"&gt;Sacred  Space: Part One: &lt;/a&gt;The Spiritual Language of Beauty&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;h3&gt;&lt;a href="http://buildmychurchnow.com/blog/?p=680" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link to Sacred Space: Part Two"&gt;Sacred  Space Part Two: &lt;/a&gt;If These Walls Could Talk&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;h3&gt;&lt;a href="http://buildmychurchnow.com/blog/?p=690" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link to Sacred Spaces: Part Three"&gt;Sacred  Space Part Three:&lt;/a&gt;The Barren Cross&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;br /&gt;More of my blog posts on Mark, click:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="label-size label-size-3"&gt;&lt;a dir="ltr" href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/search/label/Mark%20DeRaud"&gt;Mark  DeRaud&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span class="label-count" dir="ltr"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;h3 id="post-690"&gt;&lt;a href="http://buildmychurchnow.com/blog/?p=690" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link to Sacred Spaces: Part Three"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;h3&gt;&lt;a href="http://buildmychurchnow.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/mark_deraud.jpg"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;h3&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/701111502598835670-7084914535104562412?l=labichurchhistory.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://labichurchhistory.blogspot.com/feeds/7084914535104562412/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' 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width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-701111502598835670.post-3166149560678720738</id><published>2010-05-23T16:55:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-05-23T17:00:06.564-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Video: The LABI Line-Up</title><content type='html'>What a great "A" class we had, can't wait for 'B'.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For those of you who missed out, check out this  first video  below, where I had five stellar students line up and re-enact a  version of the exercise Brian McLaren&lt;br /&gt;talks about in the second video, in a slightly different context, in this clip.&lt;br /&gt;We had a fight over who played the part of Jesus (:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/CjupaeeNSSU&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed 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href='http://labichurchhistory.blogspot.com/2010/05/video-labi-line-up.html' title='Video: The LABI Line-Up'/><author><name>dave</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-701111502598835670.post-6591173319504159760</id><published>2010-05-19T17:21:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-05-19T18:00:09.533-07:00</updated><title type='text'>SHOCKING VIDEO: "The Gaithers on Crack"</title><content type='html'>What does this&lt;span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:180%;"  &gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;crazy video&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;have to do with church history?&lt;br /&gt;                         Quite a bit...we'll find out this weekend.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-size:100%;" &gt;Enjoy  it, it's an outtake from the famous/infamous video series posted by the KRDU boys&lt;br /&gt;(see &lt;a href="http://www.krdu1130.com/pages/kenadams.html"&gt;http://www.krdu1130.com)&lt;/a&gt;, and me, their guest.  You will recognize Keltic Ken as  frequent visitor to LABI, and check out  Hermano &lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/www.myspace.com/vincentjoeveramusic"&gt;Vincent  J. Vera&lt;/a&gt;'s..he is the "straight man" in this video... awesome music ministry&lt;a href="http://www.myspace.com/vincentjoeveramusic"&gt; here&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;object width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/-u2UmH5qfZc&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/-u2UmH5qfZc&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/701111502598835670-6591173319504159760?l=labichurchhistory.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://labichurchhistory.blogspot.com/feeds/6591173319504159760/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://labichurchhistory.blogspot.com/2010/05/gaithers-on-crack.html#comment-form' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/701111502598835670/posts/default/6591173319504159760'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/701111502598835670/posts/default/6591173319504159760'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://labichurchhistory.blogspot.com/2010/05/gaithers-on-crack.html' title='SHOCKING VIDEO: &quot;The Gaithers on Crack&quot;'/><author><name>dave</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-701111502598835670.post-8034985996740237246</id><published>2010-05-11T18:39:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-05-11T21:48:06.280-07:00</updated><title type='text'>a prayer for class...and a Rob Bell video</title><content type='html'>Just a quick prayer, and an intriguing video as we count down to next week's class...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;"Lord, help us all to know not only Church History better, but You better, as we gather next weekend.  In Jesus Name!"&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The video: If we have time in class, we'll watch some of this video in class.  It's a very helpful and provocative sermon by Rob Bell on Revelation, and the early church's place in history..particularly when pressured to worship the emperor. &lt;span style="display: block;" id="video-description"&gt;“Domitian was the  first emperor to understand that behind the Christian movement there  stood an enigmatic figure who threatened the glory of the emperors. He  was the first to declare war on this figure …” -Ethelbert Stauffer&lt;/span&gt; Enjoy below (or click &lt;a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1465663627958239828#"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; to watch full screen)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;embed id="VideoPlayback" src="http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docid=1465663627958239828&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=true" style="width: 400px; height: 326px;" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/701111502598835670-8034985996740237246?l=labichurchhistory.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://labichurchhistory.blogspot.com/feeds/8034985996740237246/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://labichurchhistory.blogspot.com/2010/05/see-you-soon.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/701111502598835670/posts/default/8034985996740237246'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/701111502598835670/posts/default/8034985996740237246'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://labichurchhistory.blogspot.com/2010/05/see-you-soon.html' title='a prayer for class...and a Rob Bell video'/><author><name>dave</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-701111502598835670.post-7376400581710121021</id><published>2010-03-25T08:45:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-04-30T16:22:29.903-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Great way to spend  a spring weekend</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dJ81AALsvDg/SjBeD6j6qLI/AAAAAAAACgs/JAujodLHysA/s1600-h/farn682831920_459486_8803.jpg"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5345876179041298610" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; width: 243px; cursor: pointer; height: 320px;" alt="" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dJ81AALsvDg/SjBeD6j6qLI/AAAAAAAACgs/JAujodLHysA/s320/farn682831920_459486_8803.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=PI_7q98KDHMC&amp;amp;dq=hans+kasdorf&amp;amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;amp;source=bl&amp;amp;ots=L7SkXsdPH5&amp;amp;sig=KYW6YlJsyeBdyYulJ-hhbktn7y4&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;ei=Jl4wSrCjE4OAtgP2lY3DAw&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;oi=book_result&amp;amp;ct=result&amp;amp;resnum=5#PPR7,M1"&gt;One of my church history professors&lt;/a&gt; had a photographic memory.&lt;br /&gt;That I don't have, but I will be praying I can take up his mantle, and make church history memorable..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;..maybe even unforgettable!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We'll be in class together May 21-22.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's an amazing history the church has had, full of large- than -life characters and stories; and signs of God's holy hand and our humble humanity.&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; And we are living today in what David Dark calls "this weird moment in history," an era that many are calling a new reformation, and a season of which Leonard Sweet says "there is no name for what God is doing now." The consensus, though, is these are historic times for our future (read the &lt;a href="http://davewainscott.blogspot.com/2008/09/st-phyllis-tickle-video.html"&gt;Phyllis Tickle&lt;/a&gt; articles, or &lt;a href="http://labichurchhistory.blogspot.com/p/watch-phyllis-tickle-videos-here.html"&gt;her videos here&lt;/a&gt;  for a fun preview..she suggests we are in a big once-every-500-years "rummage sale!").&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What a joy it will be to take a look at the history of the Christian church..from Pentecost through this "weird moment." You will really enjoy our  very readable textbook, and I will continue to add resources to this site. Syllabus  and assignments posted &lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-size:180%;" &gt;&lt;a style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0);" href="http://labichurchhistory.blogspot.com/p/syllabus-and-assignments.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;See you soon! Many of you are very close to graduation: congrats! You have been amazing students.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;dw&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/701111502598835670-7376400581710121021?l=labichurchhistory.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://labichurchhistory.blogspot.com/feeds/7376400581710121021/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://labichurchhistory.blogspot.com/2010/03/great-way-to-spend-spring-weekend.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/701111502598835670/posts/default/7376400581710121021'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/701111502598835670/posts/default/7376400581710121021'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://labichurchhistory.blogspot.com/2010/03/great-way-to-spend-spring-weekend.html' title='Great way to spend  a spring weekend'/><author><name>dave</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ywwF6-JcRfY/TbHGHut5GvI/AAAAAAAAFGA/b5PM7HTHLhk/s220/caper.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dJ81AALsvDg/SjBeD6j6qLI/AAAAAAAACgs/JAujodLHysA/s72-c/farn682831920_459486_8803.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry></feed>
